Юноше, обдумывающему покупку ЦАПа — слушай, не покупай! 💰 (часть 1)

“В два раза громче смартфона” - надо брать!

Конкурент:

VINSHINE AUDIO DAC-R2R REF
SKU: 1118
$1,480.00

http://www.vinshineaudio.com/product-page/a5952b51-0edc-b170-4f94-648d4a9dec86

Joe-siow

[quote]Firstly, my sincere thanks to Alvin for organizing this tour and Stanley for the hassle free delivery. The unit has just been passed to Ricky this evening.

The 3 days spent with the Vinshine DAC has been pretty positive, as this is my first real experience with a R2R DAC. My current setup is the Lumin D1, Amtrans APCG-01S (very generously on loan from a bro), Bel Canto REF500S and KEF LS50. With the Vinshine DAC, listening was done via USB from my laptop with the JRiver software.

I first spent some time on the headphone out to get a feel of the unit. It had a slightly warm and dark signature with a meaty tonality. With my Fitear TG334 on a Toxic Hydra silver litz cable, it delivered a very good performance with pinpoint imaging and quite good separation and details. Soundstage depth was very good with believable width. This was a particularly pleasant surprise, as the headphone out on most DACs usually only deliver decent and unspectacular performances.

With much anticipation, I hooked up the unit to the preamp and powered it. Initial impression was not positive; it sounded hazy and soft, much like the rays from the sun trying hard to shine through dark clouds. I figured that it was just a 5 day old unit and left it to play overnight on soft volume. After a night of playing, as expected, the sound quality improved significantly.

As a dedicated DAC, the signature of the unit very much mirrored the headphone out; slightly warm and dark sounding, with a meaty tonality. It also had a organic and slightly holographic presentation, delivering a smooth and non fatigue listening experience. Despite the meaty tonality, it was not slow sounding, and Rock music sounded right. Resolution is pretty good and details were presented naturally and never in my face or forward. Bass was punchy but could be tighter. Vocals was organic, natural sounding with finesse. Treble was extended and smooth.

In conclusion, there is much to like about the Vinshine DAC. It is slightly warm, organic and smooth while retaining good resolution. The above average headphone amp on board and the ability to be used as a preamp adds much value to the DAC as well. [/quote]

kimurastanley

[quote]After >48 hours of running in. Had a longer listen to this DAC.

My setup is melco N1A–> wireworld platinum starlight usb–> vishine DAC
Usual setup is melco–> stock melco ethernet cable–> lumin A1

Compared to newly opened unit, the stage does open up. The signature would be warm as compared to lumin in my opinion.

Again, the presentation is punchy and plenty of bites. Good for pop, rap, R&B songs in my opinion. Good attack and I enjoy when I listen to these genre of songs.

If you are using usb interface, I would recommend to invest on quality audiophile usb cable. I get more transparent, lower noise level, better bass extension with wireworld usb cable as compared to the stock usb cable.

Sound stage opens up after running in, with improvement of depth. Lumin A1 streamer + DAC does have wider stage , more layering and holographic sounding.
Considering the price difference (lumin A1 almost 4 times more expensive), one should expect better performance by lumin.

This DAC performs well above its price. I have heard worse performance in similar priced DAC, and even some more expensive DAC.

Overall it exceeds my expectation and this is a good buy for those looking for value for money DAC. Especially now having promotion for the loan program.

Going to pass to the next person, let’s see what other bros think about this DAC.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161231/ad2a683fd2b4564dc7830255d31843dc.jpg[/quote]

Rgds,
Alvin Chee
VINSHINE AUDIO

Hi Alvin.
Thanks for info. I glad to see rebirth of r-2r converters. They sounds much better then latest sabre or akm chips.

Надеюсь, успех spring holo подтолкнет многих производителей к собственным дискретным разработкам. Нам это только на руку.

@alvin1118
Hi Alvin, the problem with quoted review that we know nothing about reviewers :slight_smile:
everybody lies!

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###PS Audio Stellar Gain Cell DAC < 2000$

The DAC chip itself is the acclaimed 32-bit ESS Sabre Hyperstream architecture, the output of which is passively filtered to reduce transient distortion. the Gain Cell DAC’s power supply includes a large analog transformer, 7 regulators, properly-bypassed high-speed switching diodes, and a massive 15,000 mFd of storage capacitance.

http://www.psaudio.com/stellar-gain-cell-dac/

Не увидел в описании какая Сябра стоит

EVO PhonoDAC Two ($1,600), EVO Clock Two ($640), HiFace EVO Two ($640), EVO Supply Two ($500), EVO Plus DAC Two ($890), and the EVO DAC Two ($630). Common to the DAC products: 32/384 PCM and DSD 256 processing, while the EVO Plus DAC Two has an additional clock input.

http://www.m2tech.biz/it/index_it.html

##RME ADI-2 Pro
Для любителей цифрятинки

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Цена не гуманная.

Нормальная цена :slight_smile: + на модных чипах (ak4490 x 2) :slight_smile: http://www.musik-produktiv.ru/rme-adi-2-pro.html?gclid=CjwKEAiAqozEBRDJrPem0fPKtX0SJAD5sAyHqFywVit5GGmqbDKOY8z6xW-VtNrfZUhDYkTkoHJLyhoCU_jw_wcB

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Друзья, нужна помощь в выборе цапа.
Основное подключение, пока USB, оптика для видео и xbox.
Жанры: джаз, инди, блюз, классика.
Хочется огромной широкой сцены, детальности, люблю закрывать глаза и видеть все инструменты, к сожалению еще страдаю аудиофилией, возможно скоро стану меломаном), но и как без музыкальности.
слушаю с мак мини с руном. Хайрез обязателен хотя бы 192/24, дсд не в приоритетах, наушники не нужны
бюджет до 50000р. в основном рассматриваю бу.
претенденты:
M2Tech Young DSD (сложно с бу)
M2Tech Young с внешним блоком
NAD M51
Mytek 192 DSD
Metrum Octave MK 2
Audio Note DAC One 1x (умеет 96/24 и на вторичке 60-65т. что уже многовато)
может еще что посоветуете, с прослушкой тяжело у нас в Ростове, поэтому полагаюсь на этот форум

Чем mojo не зашел? Ведь одного поле-ягода с теми, что выше

Моджо шикарен, но я устал перетыкать кабели на нем, плюс использование идиотских джеков, на межблок и кокс. А так же микро юсб, кто вообще придумал этот разъем? Сцена на нем не очень широкая, не больше расстановки акустики, а так претензий в детальности и увлекательности к нему не было, вот и ищу среди этих моделей что то похожее на моджика, но без этих недостатков

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[quote=“jeka_morales, post:1210, topic:110, full:true”]

бюджет до 50000р. в основном рассматриваю бу.
претенденты:
M2Tech Young DSD (сложно с бу)
M2Tech Young с внешним блоком
NAD M51
Mytek 192 DSD
Metrum Octave MK 2
Audio Note DAC One 1x
[/quote] Дело ваше, но в вашем бюджете, от хай реза будет одно название. Майтек точно не надо. Аудионот или Метрум под ваши жанры. Но тучи деталей наверно не будет… За деталями к Майтеку. Тут в туре Аудионот старенький есть…Может его продавать будут потом… Думаю это золотая середина будет… Я бы такой купил. http://dastereo.ru/t/bike-stereo-tur-vintazhnyj-i-nachalnyj-czap-audio-note-dac-1/3082

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Лучше всего и по деньгам и по звуку metrum octave mk1, с 2-мя трансформаторами и синей платой. И 24-192 воспроизводит.
На вторичке редко, но бывает. Из начальных метрумов лучший вариант. Есть у многих в баре.

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Вот такой у меня был, хороший цап, есть пред и xlr выходы
http://www.fanthorpes.co.uk/second-hand/leema-acoustics-elements-dac-pre-amplifier-2218237-418209-837723.php

Chord 2Qute, не?

Посмотрю, спасибо Максим

Конечно будут :slight_smile: